Originally Posted by
Captainbfv
It's really funny, in one sentence you say lets leave AR behind. Put him in the past, lets focus on the present. Yet you can't seem to let go of GU and the past. GU admitted publicly of the failures of the last contract, yet still stated... "it was a wholy war" and basically it was the best or what was agreed. S.A was part of that negotiating team too no? Yet AR placed him back as lead negotiator. J.O might've been experienced, but what about the other two idiots in the room? M.T and A.B? Should they have been there? J.O requested them to be in there, and they were agreeing to absolute ********ry bc J.O would look to them for guidance on things we had no clue. Such as larry limos or rental cars among other things. You keep saying we've known each other for years... I don't know you, and I say that because you don't have the absolute huevos to contact me. Instead you keep hidding behind this screename that you created in March of this year. So I THINK, I THINK I can narrow down to who you are. You're either in the training department, or you're someone that recently got a stick up you arse bc GU wouldn't give you a position as a stewart? Am I in the ball park?
So no, you spare me your one slanted opinion and until you have the cojones to talk to me on the phone or in person like a man, then to me you obviously have a chip on your shoulder. I can't say that I sympathize or empathize bc I haven't gotten my "feelings hurt" by GU. It is OBVIOUS that you haven't talked to anyone in the NC in recent weeks/months. And much less had the balls to tell GU what you really think.
GU was "responsible" for the *******stain contract we have now. AR is resposible for the ********stain negotiations and representation we had for YEARS until a few months ago. The next few months will tell how wrong we "got it again" or how "well it all worked out". So spaaaaaaare me with your inability to have a pair to contact me.
You're right, I cannot let go of GU and the past because unlike AR, GU is directly impacting the lives of each pilot here. AR has no bearing on any of us anymore-- the same cannot be said for GU. So until GU is gone and we have responsible, respectable, intelligent ALLEGIANT PILOTS representing ourselves, I will not leave GU in the past.
You said the quiet part out loud, GU admitted that he is an incapable negotiator and he delivered us this lovely CBA. Tell me brother, what has GU done in the time since 2016 to learn how to properly negotiate? Have you talked to pilots at Atlas about their contract? The one GU couldn't get done so it was settled in binding arbitration? Is he going to use his knowledge of negotiating at Northern Air Cargo to get us across the line? Or is it Silver Air? Which peer airline has GU negotiated a pilot contract for? Yes, SA was apart of that team, as was SW, and CG, all three of whom should be nowhere near the table again. SA's run at the table this year was limited to what, 6 days of negotiating? I don't think he could've f*cked it up if he tried in that short of time. MT and AB look like 20 somethings, I think my kids are older. I don't know how they got there in the first place but I specifically remember GU telling the whole pilot group that HE CHOSE those two to remain as apart of the team and he advocated for them several times via Zoom. JO didn't exactly strike me as the type of guy to keep unneeded guys in the room with himself. Obviously we all hear rumors about the content of negotiations but I would love to know how you feel so confident sharing "fact" that is protected by NDA. Ah, that's right JK can't help himself and talks to much.
We have known each other, FOR YEARS, doesn't look so good to get all high and mighty behind a keyboard does it? Brother this is you daily on here, WhatsApp, and Facebook. You are the true Drama Queen of our airline. I'm not going to say whether or not I'm hanging out in SFB, nor am I going to say whether I had desired to actually help the pilots by becoming a *steward*.