Originally Posted by
3000
No, my questions were not inflammatory at all. I simply asked how you expect F9 to spend another $200 million on the new contract per year when they're not even making that much in profit. You guys didn't like the question and started calling me names.
And I didn't say you are a bunch of Denny's servers. I simply compared what Denny's servers can make compared to the servers of a fancier restaurant that makes more money. in that example, I'd be a server as well.
Anyway, as I said before, best of luck. Your company needs to make more money to pay you what you're asking, and I hope that happens soon.
3000. Your questions may not be inflammatory but many of your comments are...go back and read them. You are offending people here. That's not an effective way to get a good discussion . The fact you can't see that, is certainly not helping you.
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A couple random thoughts. A standard tactic in negotiating is to always ask for more than you think is possible. Passengers already paying the max they can? So if a flight is $1 more there will be no takers? $5? $10?. I think the relationship is more related to what other options they have. Pilot pay and relating it to profit, insurance or whatever. Yes, absolutely the company will use those items in negotiating if it helps them and effects the outcome. I think what F9 pilots will end up with has more to do with what leverage is available, how good the negotiators are on each side, how badly a contract is wanted by either side, pilot solidarity etc.
When you ask, what makes someone think they can get X, it can be a moving target. I think asking or thinking why a pilot shouldn't be as paid the same as other similar pilots is the healthiest mindset. So why destroy that? I can see why you were called anti-union for that. You are not helping other pilots with unity, therefore not a team player. To think you wont get paid equally to others in same positions is self defeating to all on the labor side. In the end, it's hard to answer what is a pilot worth. Perhaps you are worth what you can negotiate. DAL did a fine job for all of us with their last contract.