You may be right. I think to get that pre postal contract number to something that reflects todays situation we have to consider the non postal contract growth since then as well. I would bet that will make that 4000 a bit higher. Then take into consideration the number of retirements, the potential of new business, and the amount of time it takes to go from planning saying we need more bodies and getting them trained. In my opinion, this all adds up to the F word being tossed around being a scare tactic, and 4A2C being a way to cut their losses while they retrain people into seats where they are needed. Simply put, they are trying to make us pay for their mismanagement while F#$&ing with us to get a cheaper contract.