Originally Posted by
Making Sense
At this stage, we should focus on streamlining rather than expanding our resources and inputs.
We need to reduce all those support mechanisms, not expand them. We need LESS guidance, not more!
The strategies we've implemented over the past two years have proven ineffective.
Reducing complexity, including removing Teamster involvement, would allow for a more efficient negotiating committee that can effectively finalize the contract. Once that's accomplished, we'll have ample time to evaluate future options, whether that involves joining ALPA or pursuing alternative paths.
Originally Posted by
reeeeeeegional
If you decertify, then where is the leverage for eventual endgame and release?
Every other pilot group uses pilot negotiators. This is not rocket science. And the notion of a "skilled negotiator" weaving a magic spell and leading the company into agreement is a pure fantasy, and betrays a lack of understanding of how the process actually works.
Every other pilot group uses pilot negotiators. What is sometimes needed is a talented ADVISOR.
Anyone who thinks going it alone is a wise move should cite an example where decertification and bringing in some sort of negotiations ninja closed the deal. There is no "talking the company into it", you will get the deal when they need the deal, or when you get released.
Where on earth is this idea of decertifying Teamsters, rolling unrepresented for x amount of time, and then voting in ALPA coming from? You guys are airline pilots aren't you? How on earth have you made it to this stage of your career and you still can't understand that google has a search function. Seriously, my teenage kids do a better job using the search function than all of you. I implore all who read this, inform yourself from the source and go read the rule change which occured roughly 5 years ago. Yes, historically you had to first decertify and then elect new representation in a later vote. The federal goverment believed this was archaic-- it was-- and it was adapted to what we have present day. In a hypothetical scenario where Allegiant decides to leave Teamsters for the world of ALPA, it would all occur in one swift move. The same vote to rid us of this STD, er... I mean union... would also be the vote to elect ALPA. I am no expert, but from what I read, the ballot would appear as 1. Union A 2. Union B or 3. No Union.
My goodness, can we not walk and chew gum at the same time either?