Originally Posted by
Lakeaffect
I’m talking about your certainty that the TA was never about being a stop gap, it was only about stemming attrition, ALPA playing right into “their” hand. They would have given us more, because otherwise Spirit wouldn’t be around. Giving in to our demands being a red flag. This is the stuff that you are imagining to be true. You have no way of knowing these things. And now you’re using the things that you imagined to be true to be the things from which to learn.
Nothing wrong with learning from the past. You are not doing that. You are “learning” from imagination. You can’t insert opinions and biases as fact. You are keeping the answer of “we should have voted no” and now just searching for evidence to support it.
It's a hard call to make without 20/20 hindsight.
We (AS) were in a similar position, but the TA was a lot closer to big three and it passed with a solid margin.
I was actually confident that the folks who said "we can do better" were correct. But in hindsight if we had turned it down, we might have just been wrapping up TA 2.0 in late 2023 / early 2024... if it wasn't finished on the day the door plug came off, the company would have picked their offer up off the table and walked out of the room, never to return.
We'd still be in negotiations today, with a 2017 pay scale and no PBS, attrition halted, and over-staffed. Oopsie.