180 knots till a 3-mile final? Haha. We take the Dash to a 2-mile final at 180 all the time. Not a problem. That's the difference. With a Dash, you have to actually "fly" it. In CLT for example, at 9000' abeam the numbers you're cleared for the visual. You can make your standard 45deg downwind to base turn and hit the numbers if you know what you're doing. That's what the Dash'll do.