However you can’t really have some big grand future vision if you are just trying to get the water out of the boat. Hayes had some grand vision for us how did that work out? It got us right here. Honestly I want them to be boring right now. Focus on getting the airline running better. (If) they can do that.

I mean I have all kinds of visions about some really cool family vacation than reality hits after I try to put the last kid in a car seat and I’m ready to do a loop around the block and call it a day.