Originally Posted by Meme In Command

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the captain thing was debunked. Apparently when you flow and they hold you back a few months you get a seniority number for a few months while he was still at Endeavor. I believe he was offered the flow and then didn't actually follow through in the end so he was "on the list" for 3 months but never physically on property. So he didn't fail out of training, he chose to stay.

That's how I understood the story from the Ex endeavor guys I've flown with recently

Originally Posted by joepilot50

Prelim is out.

Short and sweet of it is approach speed was set appropriately at 149 knots per EDV guidance, power was at 64%, 175' airspeed got a bit slow at 144 knots, power remained the same, 150' airspeed spiked to 154 knots, PF brought power back to idle and remained there until touchdown. They lost the gust and the airspeed began to bleed off from there. Sink rate GPWS went off and airspeed decreased to 134 knots at touchdown where the right gear felt 3G's of force at 1098 FPM.

Sounds like a screw up all around. If going to idle is what it takes to arrest an increase in airspeed especially at 150', they should have went around. Or at the very least, only reduce power, but never go to idle and anticipate bringing it back in once the gust is lost. But go around would be the preferable and desirable course of action obviously vs trying to save it.

150' was plenty of time for the captain to intervene and either say something or take control. Both were at fault in this accident just going off the prelim.