Originally Posted by
LinaPeru
yeah well getting paid below market rates for the 5+ years of the contract’s life will be losing money too.
No profit sharing is losing money too.
No overrides will be losing money too.
No retro checks will be losing money too.
No snap ups will be losing money too.
Theres all sorts of ways you’ve been losing money and will continue to lose money.
im not really sure where you’re going with this.
you say “reasonable”, I’m not really sure what reasonable is. Two years ago, at the start of negotiations, reasonable had a very different connotation than “contract 2030”. Two years ago reaonable might have been JetBlue rates. Contract 2030 you think JB rates would be reasonable? F U if you think the answer to that question is yes.
Legacies start negotiations in 26.
Two contract cycles behind, years of money lost to inflation unable to be invested. You got idiots on here screaming out of both sides of their mouths that we aren’t going to be paid industry rates, but we’re not going to see a contract until god knows when.
so why are we taking about reasonable? Reason has gone dude. Your union is saying the company doesn’t negotiate in good faith. Reason has left the conversation. You probably have more to gain by not taking the first offer.
All I said is its silly to say vote no to the first offer reflexively, no matter what. So why is that deserving of an FU? I didn’t say vote in a pile of crap. I didn’t say settle for a bunch less. I didn’t say vote yes to the first thing either. I'm simply pointing out we have a massive number of pilots that have never been through negotiations and rather than give over-simplistic advice, we should think critically enough to decide if its a good deal or not. And all that money that you rightly point out we lose every day will continue to be lost as we try for round 2 or 3 or whatever. Thats all. It may be worth the fight and a no vote, Im just saying we have to be intelligent and fight hard and not use blanket statements.