Old 03-22-2025 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
As mentioned earlier it certainly adds a new dimension to high vibes and to take that more seriously than just taxi to the gate and write it up. I've been a believer in having ARFF follow me to the gate after a fire indication (no matter how sure I am it's just a bad sensor) for quite a while but I'll add this too now.

As far as the clown show, the FAA requires safety demos but we have shortened those as much as possible (probably still too long) but keep them very simple and never say anything that might sound scary then we give a few extra instructions if we tell the cabin crew to prepare for an emergency landing. We even do the absolutely dumb ass 'are you willing and able' not just once but several times now to the people who paid extra for the exit row so they could actually have some legroom and on American enjoy a 'free' cocktail or two (take that United). We just upgraded our bourbon and Scotch selections by the way!

Instead of just getting a verbal yes, how about we actually brief the exit row passengers to look out the ****ing window first and don't open it if there is smoke? Does the safety card even cover this concept or does it just explain how to open it? We spend all this time telling them how to open it without covering when not to, so is it really a surprise when they panic and open it??
This is an older video but an interesting situation. A Delta 757 had an engine fire and stopped after landing, where the tailpipe fire quickly grew (around 2:00 min mark). They did not evacuate and instead ARFF put the fire out, they then started the other engine and taxi'd to the gate.

https://youtu.be/OetGcnfV0NM?si=TeG2Vv0JM2Z4_aGb&t=105

The fire takes over two minutes to put out and during which time the pax stay in their seats without initiating an evacuation.

One of my major frustrations with recurrent training is we do not go over scenarios on the line and do debriefs while in class, it's purely a box checking exercise. While one can do this on their own, I would think it a much better learning tool if done in group environments.
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