Originally Posted by
ColdWhiskey
At the time, the term ULCC had not been used yet. Frontier was considered a LCC and had a great product and devoted loyal customers.
SWA was also a LCC and grew to the behemoth that it is now while always leading the industry in pilot pay.
Why do so many of you believe that the low cost model (whatever you want to call it, LCC or ULCC) has to be associated with low pilot pay?
because management does a good job convincing people they don’t deserve it or they would be the reason people lose jobs if they’re fairly compensated.
we deserve fair compensation. We are last in negotiations so we should have the highest pay rates in the industry for at least the time it takes for the legacies and other carriers to negotiate their new rates.
If you read the filings there have been some changes in the last year. Firstly indigo divested and we are no longer majority owned by them. Indigo filed to be passive. Will Franke filed to be more passive. The impact of those two events and the fact that WF is 84 meaning he is likely to step further and further back from his active roles and inputs at time goes on. I strongly believe we can manage a better contract going forward. Especially 3 years from now. But I hope well before that time point. There is plenty of casm available for pay raises to frontier’s employees to reach equality with legacy and other pilots. Vote yes for a good contract. Be willing to take the time hit to be another couple years behind while we wait for the new rates to roll in then demand parity.