Originally Posted by
VisionWings
when comparing metrics we use these carriers :”Amcrican Airlines, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines, Southwest Airlines, Alaska Airlines, JetBlue Airways, Hawaiian Airlines, Spirit Airlines, and Allegiant Air.”
so when we are being compensated we should receive the average of those carrier rates excluding those still negotiating. With a pay rise adjusted for inflationary increases.
NO NO NO!!!!
So in the game of negotiations, the LAST one to negotiate does NOT look to obtain the average of those before them. They seek to EXCEED them. Getting a higher rate means all those w/ SNAP UP CLAUSES will get one as well.
Why the F are we so adament about receiving even just $0.01 less? Are we less of a pilot force? Is it because our airlines sucks in just about every customer service metric that we assume that means we must also in pilot pay? We don't have S to do with that (and in fact, are part of the reason why the airline has any successas at all).
Where in the world does this consistent feeling of "Well, I'd like to get what everyone else has but if it's just a little less, that's OK" come from? I hear it somewhat often on the line.
F THAT !!!!!! F THAT COMPLETELY.
YOU ARE A HIGHLY TRAINED, HIGHLY SKILLED, MOST ASSUREDLY CAPABLE Airbus 320/321 pilot who has to deal w/ SO MUCH MORE S than just about everyone else in the industry. You fly w/ LIDO instead of Jepps or Foreflight. You carry 20-30% more passengers and carry lower paying (Greyhound) level customers who are more prone to destruptive behavior than any other airline. You are subject to less training for more safety averse routes/special qualification airports. Your average delay time is 3rd highest in the industry and your airline was voted the 2nd worst airline experience (behind WestJet) in North America.
You do SO MUCH for a management staff that does not give a S about you. The continually delay giving you a raise. They change flying models to suit their desires which ends up with YOU having to pay more in terms of commuting costs and missed perdiem. They purposefully design a network and pairing groups to promote inefficient trips to include 10 hour 3 day flights. Hell, they even have the audacity to send out company videos from the VP of Flt Ops or CEO telling you that they want to give you fair deal but your UNION is stopping that...
I have mentioned MANY times, the only reason F9 is in business today is because of the seniority based system - without it, the company would've folded long ago.
DO NOT VOTE "Yes" on ANYTHING less than $1 more of the A321 rate being paid to each and every UA/DL/AA pilot. Yes, I wrote MORE THAN the going rate. VOTE "No" on ANY contract that does not include a snap up clause/provision. AND absoletly, positively, do NOT vote on any type of contract that promises anything (I don't care if the rate is $500/hr) w/o an IRONCLAD grievance policy that requires the company to address every single grievance within the next "cycle" or the grievance is automatically granted to the pilot. Without that, they company will promise the moon and deliver S and tell you to grieve it....
YOU ARE WORTH IT. YOU HAVE WORKED HARD TO GET WHERE YOU ARE. YOU ARE NOT LESS THAN ANY OTHER PILOT IN AMERICA!!!!
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