The "experienced" guys (I prefer "old") that are talking down to all the young FO's are pretty much exactly what is wrong with this industry. Your generation has done more to screw the upcoming generation of pilots and pull the ladder up behind you then any generation in the history of the planet; and nowhere is it more obvious than in aviation. The reason some of those guys make $23 an hour is because you were happy giving up your scope and letting an outside company fly YOUR mainline routes so you could keep a few extra dollars for a few extra years. Management ran over you guys in the 90's and you didn't even know it. You all thought you were hot sh!t because you were making $300 an hour. The biggest retard in the world could have told you 1 bankruptcy would take care of all that. Of course, no airlines EVER go into bankruptcy. So I'd leave the whole GJ thing to us now. This generation seems to be the one that cares about what happens after we leave. It's like some of those guys said, most Legacy guys don't even know who GJ is...but God forbid you wear your ALPA laynard on an Airways flight WORTHLESS!