Originally Posted by
rickair7777
Assuming you bother to ask the question, vice just roll with whatever the algorithm feeds you.
Plus confirmation bias is pretty powerful.
I doubt UAL *intended* to screw these people, I'd guess they subcontracted without due dilegence and wound up with the "usual suspects".
If they just googled “UAL cadet school reviews”
I mean Ill google restaurant reviews and that’s just dinner lol
I called one of these schools once, no dog in the fight I was just genuinely curious, I was informed the airline is the one who services the loan, that was off putting and gives motive.
Many airlines float themselves in hard times via finance type income, their credit cards and such, when I head the school was holding the paper on these high cost low quality programs I was like “ohhh this reminds me of the credit cards the FAs are always trying to pitch at the end of the flight”
Ether way this was a dirty way to do aspiring pilots, I wish the litigants the best in their case, as the airline is also publicly traded I wonder if this will blip on any of the securities litigation firms radars.
Originally Posted by
tallpilot
I guess never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence but this was a flagship thing. This was billed as the primary way they were going to open up the profession to all these different groups who just needed a path. They didn't supervise it? They didn't have managers from Chicago on site to protect their interests?
Not everyone is going to make it through training but everyone who has been anywhere near a training department knows the keys to success. Maintain instructor continuity (not too many cooks in the kitchen), make sure the equipment is maintained to prevent excessive downtime, keep the cadence of training as stable as possible to minimize and push through learning plateaus.
Small schools can struggle with that formula because of money. United doesn't have that excuse. If American can pay regional check airmen WB captain salaries, United could have paid flight instructors enough to get the best and make them stay long enough to train the next group. I don't even think that would cost $50/hr based on my surveillance of the industry.
How could they have botched this up so bad? Now it's a PR disaster.
I agree
…Except when the party claiming incompetence profited off it
Ain’t a PR disaster, outside of the forum and others who are active in the flight training world no one even knows about this, and many of the pilots who are have been ATPs pay less than zero attention to anything aviation related outside of the CBA
Originally Posted by
JohnBurke
But...but...but...
I was promised a bridge, and I want one right now...
and it better be from Brooklyn...
What’s wrong with that?
I pay for a bill of goods and I should expect to receive them.
I am VERY sick of the predatory lending BS we allow to fly in this nation.
You have more recourse and options if a tiny car lot finances a grown man a 15k lemon, but suck it up buttercup when a “school” sells someone JUST out of highschool, knowing they have near zero life experience, on “their future” to the tune of 6 figures
We need lemon laws on degrees, we also should be able to bankrupt out of “education” loans.
If a school pressures someone who isn’t even old enough to buy a beer, to go buy/finance $100,000.00 worth of degree or program; knowing damn well they ain’t going to make nearly enough to pay that back, they deserve to eat the loan
And who in their right mind would want anything near NYC
