Paid for, even losing some with mx costs anf higher fuel burn can have a lower CASM than our competitors with lease/mortgage payments on newer hulls, or leverage our overhaul abilities to operate simil, paid for hulls at lower cost.

Owning a refinery can take some of the cost out of using a say 752 thats paid for vs a 321Neo with a mortgage or lease. Or a used 737 vs a new max.