Originally Posted by
TiredSoul
Give me a break.
The 77 is one giant pile of technique that somehow made it into “procedure”.
Then you ask for a reference or guidance and nobody knows who or when or why they started doing it.
Flying with one earcup of your headset is re-tah-ded in 2025.
If you can keep the intercom on continuously with the joke switch you can do it with a rubber band.
Same thing end of story.
Atlas bought a hillbilly bankrupt airline in 2016 and should have purged the entire training department including DE’s.
They didn’t so they still teach hillbilly procedures and grade you on technique.
Cooperate or you don’t graduate.
Most LcA’s are so unstandardized it’s not even funny not to mention look like homeless people in and out of uniform.
Carry on truckin’
Toot toot
….and this boys and girls is from someone who is not on the 777 fleet at Atlas, but demonstrates the superiority complex some on the 747 fleet feel. He is promoting falsehoods based on rumor and innuendo. Southern was not bankrupt when Atlas purchased it. Southern had exited bankruptcy prior to the purchase and was a profitable, albeit a small company. Atlas made a great deal and was able to pay off the Southern purchase within a few years with the profits generated. Hillbillies? The core of the 777 training department was trained by Boeing and continues to use the Boeing program and even some former Boeing instructors. This is different than the 747/767 fleets and causes problems with pilots transitioning who expect the same as their previous fleet.
The 777 aircraft, crews, and training department are the most standardized of the soon to be three fleets at Atlas. There’s actually an active standardization program for the 777 LCPs that does not exist on the other fleets. Is there room for improvement? Certainly! That’s the goal of the program. The other fleets are not even trying. The 777 fleet simply has less issues across the board. Just ask management next time you have a chance and get the facts instead of making assumptions. Daily 777 ops run smoother partly due to flying relatively newer jets - not worn out 744s. A large part of it is the culture and attitude on the fleet.
After Atlas purchased Southern, management adopted Southern’s FDM program after some very high profile incidents on the legacy Atlas fleets. The FDM data was eye opening. Some was known. A LOT was going unreported. Thankfully, that program has greatly improved the safety on all fleets…especially the 747.
The 777 operation did not deviate from Boeing procedures (until Atlas influenced some) and did not have to undergo major changes to their manuals and procedures like the 747/767 fleets recently did. The legacy fleets had to return to the Boeing standards. The safety data backs up the standardization and lack of overall problems on the 777 fleet. If you come to Atlas you will work for one of three sub-operations….the darling 747, the 777, or the now smallest fleet - the 767. This unfortunately will never change.
I am no longer a Southern pilot. I am an Atlas pilot.! This crap spewed by those who simply do not know just ****es me off.