Originally Posted by
ginntonic
Questions first. Yes I call my reps and send DARTs. No, I don't attend airport meetups. Yes I read my e-mails.
I don't need a play by play & I agree public negotiations aren't appropriate.
NC should be more transparent without laying all our cards on the table. Just because things are 'normal' doesn't mean we shouldn't question the norm.
Sharing our UNH survey results would be a good start.
How about an update to our FFT ALPA status sheet from Nov '23, which was distributed along with our economic proposal. (See negotiator newsletter #22.)
Have we amended our economic proposal to placate the company or have we stood firm with what was delivered in Nov? If yes, what's changed?
It would be nice to have a little more detail in the updates. Examples from one recent letter.
"Some larger issues remain" What issues?
"We...are in the process of developing a framework" Explain?
"The Company has shown no inclination to address any of the key issues important to Frontier pilots" What are those issues? What factors are the NC prioritizing?
No doubt the NC has their hands full and I'm not the one at the table. I also am definitely coming from a place of ignorance in terms of what constraints are placed on our team.
If we can share a full economic proposal with the pilot group, then surely we can send survey results and describe some of the meeting elements with more clarity.
You straight up said you’re coming from a place of ignorance and then wrote a whole post like you're an authority. I get it though, that just lets us know you're a real pilot.
The UNH survey was already used to shape the proposal. That’s not a secret. And no, they’re not going to release the raw polling because it gives the company a roadmap to divide us.
The economic proposal from November 2023 is still the one on the table unless something’s been TA’d, and that would be a pretty big update. We’d hear about it.
And yeah, “larger issues remain” probably means the same stuff it’s always meant—retirement, scheduling, reserve, pay. Not hard to connect the dots.
I get wanting more info, but if you’re not showing up to meetings or reading the stuff they are sending, maybe don’t act like you’re being kept in the dark.
Call your reps or send a DART. They’re actually pretty responsive.