Originally Posted by
Underdog
Well, just talked to MP. Without the recent agreement, I get HKG. That is unless the company determines it would have created excess at the FDA. With agreement, I don't. I am in excess status...period. Oh well. I guess I can only be upset that the powers that be, changed the system in place with the "settlement agreement." The company attempted an end around with a partial bid cancellation. It bit them. I don't see how the agreement helped the crewforce. But, I do agree, I'm looking at this from perhaps a different perspective. I believe the posting should have been cancelled and re-bid altogether. See ya in Memphis.
I don't quite understand MP's statement here. I did not see anything in the agreement that made the Company decide not to allow an excess into an FDA, because that is what is happening to you. You are a DC10 CA and want to bid HKG on an excess, I would argue that the Company has determined HKG CA is full and they are not allowing excess pilot to bid it.
The settlement reads that the restriction on excess into an FDA is allowed, but the Company can turn around and then declare an excess in the FDA if they so choose. This is all in reference to canceled awards, your issue is straight out of the CBA, MP is blaming the Union for requiring compliance with the CBA...
From the settlement:
The pilot’s excess status, however, shall not be limited by the prohibition in Section 24.C.6.c. The parties recognize that the Company may declare an excess at an FDA following the awards or assignments.
CBA
Except as provided in Section 24.C.6.b., a pilot who has been excessed, or who has bid to relieve an excess, shall be awarded another permanent crew position in accordance with his seniority and standing bid; provided, however,
no pilot may be awarded or assigned a crew position at an FDA base that would cause an excess at that base.
The only way per the CBA they could award you HKG is if there are vacancies created by people bidding out since there are no primary's in this FDA on 08-02.
I just do not see how MP can put the blame on the Union for not allowing an excess into an FDA ?
Good Luck.
BTW, your DC10 CA slot was not canceled, so you are correct you are simply bidding from the DC10 as an excess, not sure what other option you would have ?