Originally Posted by
NotMrNiceGuy
The point is that you are trying to portray a narrative rather than dealing with the honest history. Just state what happened. Don’t try to make it look a certain way.
I'm not trying to portray any narrative. I am stating what happened. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean I am trying to make it look a certain way.
Originally Posted by
NotMrNiceGuy
They weren’t hammering us on rates. Even in 2017, their 764 rate was $312. Ours was $304, which they patterned off us a year later. Their top rate of $330 applied to all of 32 planes - 18 777’s and 14 747’s. Maybe an A350 for a total of 300 Captains on top pay. Our 777 CA’s were getting BKO that put us ahead on pay.
Did I say they were hammering us? No, those are your words, not mine. Yes, in 2017, their 764 rate (an aircraft we don't fly) was $312. And yes, in November of 2017 our WB rate was $304. So, what was our rate for the other 10 months of 2017? It was $295. So who is trying to portray a narrative here? You also fail to mention that Delta had 11 pay bands in that contract while we only have 2. So, where is you proof that Delta patterned their 764 rates off of our 763 rates? Are you sure they didn't pattern off of United which had their contract in February 2016 and had higher rates than us?
You mention that we get BKO, and that put us ahead on pay. Are you sure about that? Do you even know how BKO works and what is included in the BLG and what isn't? You also forget to mention that Delta got profit sharing and cash over cap. I know, it's part of a narrative.
Originally Posted by
NotMrNiceGuy
The black and white picture you paint just doesn’t exist.
I am providing the actual numbers for anyone to make up their own mind. I am not sure why it is so important to you that we were the highest paid or for how long. Maybe you were part of the 53% that voted for contract 2015. Maybe your self worth is tied to it, I don't know. Either way, you can interpret whatever you want from the numbers. However, that doesn't change the fact that Delta turned down a TA in July 2015 that had higher rates than our November 2015 contract. It doesn't change the fact the in February 2016, United passed our rates. It doesn't change the fact that the contract that Delta ratified in December 2016 had even higher rates that went into effect in January 2016.