You guys realize you are arguing about bankruptcy and lost decade rates right? The industry has moved past these rates and are making their way to pre bankruptcy rates. Are we going to follow the industry, or continue the FedEx way it was pre 9/11 with 20% below industry. Oh, and back then they all had pensions and no PBS, so that’s not an excuse for why we accepted less then or should now. Our pay raises since then have merely been inflationary, with many concessions.