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Old 07-15-2025 | 09:02 AM
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captnate702
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Originally Posted by Bitcoin
cptnate - No we were not denied proffer. You have to have a status meeting before proffer and the status meeting was not denied but is still being considered. The union also never stopped their intent to negotiating and has always been available but you know this already.
This is so ignorant. You do know that the NMB has "considered" status conferences for years with pilot negotiations, right? The NMB in writing said that "this case remains in mediation." what does that mean to you? it is either in mediation or an impasse. if it is in mediation then by default it cannot be an impasse. we requested a proffer based on our belief we were at impasse and needed to be released. The NMB disagrees that we are at an impasse. That is the same as denying our proffer.

You can live in the clouds and drink the IBT kool aid all you want, but even members of the NC know that the proffer was denied which is why they are now shifting to comprehensive. NC was ****ed that we were giving a comprehensive because they've been saying for a year that we would not do a comprehensive until work rules were finished. What caused the change in strategy? The NMB disagrees that we are at impasse.

The union did stop negotiating when we requested to be released. they told us over and over again that they would not negotiate because we are at an impasse and there was nothing to talk about BECAUSE the NC would not talk money, retirement, benefits, etc until work rules were complete and work rules (unstacking) were at an impasse.

You can live in fantasy land all you want, but not even the NC agrees with you - hence why they are furious that we are giving in to management's game of doing comprehensives.
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