Originally Posted by
WHACKMASTER
Totally agreed about the temp setting and the selfishness or cluelessness. How many times have I heard, “I’ll just leave it on full cold until they call to complain”. By that point the pax are freezing.
Question to others that have flown 73s at other carriers:
Is this “air temp controllers are the FO’s territory” a strictly SWA thing? It seems like it to me from what I’ve witnessed on OAL jumpseats.
My last carrier it was more a PM duty (just like operating the anti-ice switches).
Originally Posted by
Proximity
I've just started telling FOs straight up that pax comfort is kinda my thing and we are gonna keep them comfortable (I used to say cool). I use self deprecating humor and laissez-faire leadership but in the end with 10% of FOs I just end up reaching over and making adjustments myself.
Just deadheaded in a MAX departing from a city with hot wx...it was super hot on the ground with useless gate air, started both at the same time, then a nice long taxi without max cooling.
Then we froze in cruise.
It sucked and there was no reason for anyone to be uncomfortable. We can do better.
Originally Posted by
Bandit30
We’re honestly terrible at keeping a comfortable temperature on our aircraft. On the ground, you can throw everything you’ve got at cooling the cabin, but once you’re airborne, the temperature game changes completely. So yeah, we can do way better!
Well, golly, what a nightmare scenario you have to deal with lol. I don't know how you manage. This is my third type rating now, and it's hands down the bottom of the barrel in terms of temperature controls. If you have a problem with senior FOs getting defensive, blame the company and every CA before you that says that panel is yours, I don't want anything to do with it. Or when it chimes, "that call is for you". You can't instill it in the culture and training, and then be surprised by it later on. The only time I would get "defensive" about it is if you just reached over and, without even acknowledging my presence or comfort level and just changed it. I really don't care about it, but I do want to be included in the process, and a CA just changing it on a whim implies I am not part of the discussion. Otherwise, just say the normal, "Can you toss a log on the fire?" and I am sure 99.9% of us would gladly do just that.