Old 07-29-2025 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
So on this

I’ve asked the NC about the lack of “fragmentation” pilots go with the planes”. As explained, it’s not helpful for NK pilots as it stands because NK leases almost of their planes. So there wouldn’t be a purchase to transfer assets solely, the planes are owned by a bank, not NK. So it’s not like UAL can come in and negotiate with NK to only buy the planes, because NK doesn’t own the planes. So as stated above, it’s not a scope provision that would help NK pilots with almost all planes being leased.

Now if UAL decides to say “hey we want to buy NK to merge”, furloughed pilots historically get placed at the bottom of the integrated seniority list, regardless of hire date, and will be integrated as a furloughed pilot on the new list below active pilots.
So, because the majority of our fleet are bank owned, is this more harmful than helpful considering if they were paid off, an acquiring airline could buy the planes only and tell the pilots to kick rocks?

What I am trying to understand is how desperately I should be trying to retain my recall rights while simultaneously trying to get hired on elsewhere, because, as I understand it, most job offers elsewhere are usually conditional upon giving up recall rights at your previous carrier.. Now I also understand that the value of having recall rights varies wildly depending if it's someone like Frontier vs. a legacy with better prospects and continued growth.
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