Originally Posted by
spooldup
We have MIGHT (depending on Wednesday) losses on a sector of travel that is HUGELY swung by the economy. We don't have business travelers that will always need to be moving like the legacies and most of our passengers are probably not doing too hot financially speaking right now.
The first 4 months of the year have been nonstop ups and downs on the economy and economic outlook based on what our government (president) is doing that day. Tarriffs this, tarriffs that. People's lives are expensive. Economists were spelling doom and gloom. Of course people won't be traveling unless they truly need to.
It is said that demand is back, which we are seeing. It is all up to the call on what the numbers are, but I am actually kind of expecting minimal losses/break even, maybe even a slight profit. Scaling back flying while overselling flights is better than flying with open seats in a world where nothing is certain right now. Even though our CEO is saying travel is back with a vengence and the TSA numbers are showing that as well...
But what do I know? I am just a pilot. I don't get paid to worry about this and I don't get paid to figure it out either, my 3 aviation management classes with my degree didn't prepare me to do someone's job who does this for a living and has multiple degrees and years of experience.
Oh, and I do take my family on us sometimes, if it works out scheduling wise....but of course, the preference is a legacy because flights for plentiful and the route network is usually 1 leg anywhere I need to go any day. BUT, that is also because they have been around for 80+ years with multiple, multiple, multiple rounds of consilidations and mergers.
Wonder what people on this thread will say if we have a marginal profit this quarter… BUT BUT BUT WE ARE STILL SCREWED 🤣. Yah making a profit here in the grand scheme of things is not a big factor but it shows that the airline can still make profits with their business model getting squeezed. In the end of the day Frontier ULCC will have to change in order to survive. As United grows by an entire spirit airlines size fleet next year a sh*t ton of ASM’s are going to flood the US market and we will not be able to compete on “cost is king any longer”. RASM will need to increase due to this along with the airline unable to grow out of this problem. That’s why first class is here, along with other things coming down the pipe. It’s the same thing that’s happening over at Southwest.
like I said take a breath and go touch some grass… if you want to leave, leave when you can. It’s really that simple.