Originally Posted by VisionWings

You cannot fake an sec filing GAAP cannot be messed with. So to say they’re so smart and hiding money to shrink their profits for their stock holdings into oblivion is ignorant.

What comment are you referring to?

Oh boy, insurance did you check the cost of this insurance on a ticket?

About $3 to $6 per flight leg per a couple news articles. I’ll admit I haven’t checked it myself.

first class without WiFi. I’m sure that’ll turn us around.

It qualifies as Economy Plus/Business for corporate domestic travel, it will be an available option for their travel agents. Some will bite. Nobody is video conferencing inflight, it’s emails. Scheduled times are more important than WiFi; that’ll be harder for us to overcome because we’ll need someone else to shrink (or dissolve).

business travel hasn’t come back. The legacies have seats they sell to undercut us.

They can’t undercut us on every day of the week, that’s why you’re seeing airplanes sitting on Tues, Wed, Sat. The travel economy is shrinking, Legacies that see us as a threat are trying to battle while they still have ammunition. F9 is taking a protective stance. If we weren’t a threat, Airline Confucius Kirby wouldn’t be talking about us. Bastian meanwhile doesn’t obsess over LCC carriers and has firmly established themselves as the premier for business travel.

There isn’t a market for our product, these changes aren’t relative to the contract negotiating cycles. This is an example of how we are out classed.

I never made a connection between our product changes and our contract cycle.

Apparently, you’re concerned with being “outclassed.” I don’t think there’s anyone here that can help you with that. This is what we are right now, and we won’t become a legacy model anytime soon and I doubt there’s a merger with a legacy during this presidential administration. Take it or leave it. If you stick around, vote for the contract you want long-term, the economy has a way of hitting the pause button on career plans. Good luck.