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Old 08-08-2025 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
there is a big difference between military training and 121 training. I’m not confident that our new 24 year old 2000hr FO can make a PF reject decision.

military pilots take YEARS to train and the environment is not a pass as a crew fail as a crew environment.

in the military if you vapor lock you are dead. I have flown with 121 pilots that completely freeze. That can’t happen durring a reject.

im not saying that CAs are immune from vapor lock. In fact one of the worst lockups iv ever been a part of was with a CA that I had to take the controls from durring an unstable approach and go around.

also United only has 2 manuals…….so at Delta you don’t brief and have more manuals?
Yet at 23 and 140 hours I was making ABORT/SUSPEND/WAVEOFF calls. If the guys are untrustable at ATP mins and a passed ATP/Type ride, another 3000 hours of sitting in the right seat not being trusted isn't going to make them any better.

Years to train? I went first flight to wings in 10 months. And another 7 at the RAG and I was flying combat missions less than 2 years after the first time I touched a Navy airplane.

Again, if the CIV pilots are so much weaker, why aren't they trained better at the air lines/airline? I've had single seat fighter jocks scare me far worse as just off OE F/Os than the 1400 hour RiddleKids who did less than 5 months at a regional and had maybe 200 turbine hours.

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