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Old 08-08-2025 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
it doesn’t have to be the case all the time….just once for your life or career to be over.

captains aren’t immune…..I could argue that every single reject that has been screwed up has been screwed up by the Captain. but someone has to be trusted with the responsibility of the aircraft and that fourth stripe makes you that person.

i cannot tell you how many times I have had a soft talking pilot or a deaf pilot say what or flat out not hear me. A Rejection is no time for that.

saying REJECT and having the FO not respond will cause me to TAKE the aircraft from them immediately which will be much worse then a positive transfer of controls. you can’t argue that.

the way we are trained is due to human factors most certainly NOT because that is the way it’s always been done.
But I could argue that the same threat could be present with an (older) captain who can't hear or doesn't recognize a threat that the FO does but lacks the authority to command a reject. Im just playing devil's advocate because pretty much any point you can make about an FO being deficient can also be made about a captain.

Regarding human factors, again others have pointed out this practice isn't uniform across the entire industry. I took on the responsibility of being a captain at my previous airline and will obviously continue to follow SOP here at DL. But its an interesting conversation to have for all the points that have been brought up.
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