Originally Posted by
cskafan123
But in all fairness If you follow verbatim what 61.159 says you can interpret that unless you follow under (c) you can't count SIC time towards ATP min.
It does not say that. There is nowhere where it limits the other legal ways under 61.51(f). Also, 61.51(c) does not contain an exception that prohibits use of SIC time for ATP. The 61.159(c) is again one way to apply SIC time, not the only way.
You are not reading the:
"
when a second pilot is not required under the type certification of the aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted" in 61.159(c).
When a second pilot
is required under the TCDS or the regulations under which the flight is being conducted, bam, you are back to being able to legitimately log and apply the SIC time.