Old 08-18-2025 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
You have spent three years blaming Ukraine for getting invaded.

You have spent three years blaming Europe for Ukraine getting invaded.

You have spent three years urging the USA to abandon Ukraine.

You have spent three years gleefully reporting any russian advance.

You have spent three years ignoring Ukraine’s robust defense and embarrassment of russia.

I don’t have to call you a kremlin propagandist….. you are making it obvious that is what you are.



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Reporting reality is not propagandizing. It’s in fact a rejection of propaganda. You might believe the Russian Ukrainian war is going fine but the reality is they are losing slowly - albeit taking a substantial toll of Russians - but that seems a price that Russia is willing to pay. You might believe that absent Putin this would have never happened but the reality is there have always been wars in Europe. Can you say Napolean?

So what are your realistic choices to turn the tide of battle? Because Ukrainian forces are not inexhaustible, and they are getting pretty exhausted right now.

I see only two realistic POSSIBILITIES, US boots on the ground (Germany’s foreign minister just questioned if they even have enough troops to be part of the “coalition of the willing” even if we can get the war stopped- far less take back the eastern Oblasts and Crimea https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1096931.html )

We are really talking about either US troops on the ground or nukes, in my opinion, and I don’t think even the Warhawks in Congress will believe the juice is worth THAT squeeze.

But if you have a REALISTIC suggestion for restoring Ukraine to its internationally recognized borders, I’ll be glad to hear it. But all I hear from you is “Putin is bad” which I will readily concede. But that doesn’t tell me how a political entity that didn’t have the power to hold onto Crimea and those Oblasts in defense is somehow going to be able to get them back. Seizing territory is - generally speaking - a lot more manpower and munition intensive than holding it. That’s not by any means cheering the Russians on or even justifying their actions, just acknowledging reality. And not acknowledging reality is - at least in the wars I’ve seen - a bad tactic.