Originally Posted by
taketheshot
No it’s pretty spot on for the most part. We aren’t large enough to bargain for the latest and greatest we get what the legacies work for minus 5% because we’re smaller and a ULCC. That’s what you’re getting at with “who we work for” I think. Look at where we fell before everyone’s last round.. approximately within 5%, that’s where we should land again. Much less and I’ll vote no.
As far as “the company can’t afford it” line I keep hearing.. that’s what they said last time. Are you aware of our profits before and after our last CBA?
2016: +200M
2017: +162M
2018: +80M
2019: CBA ratified +251M
Strange how they just couldn’t pay and the year we get a CBA we make $251M and BB said “I thought it would be more”. He’s got 90% of us right where he wants us, wake up and have some respect for yourselves. I don’t care what Bob thinks, we have hundreds of lives in our hands and we do a job that is HIGHLY skilled. We get paid, or we vote no. It’s simple.
I agree, the “who we work for” comment is exactly that. That’s one of the things I’ve point out to many guys before all the new contracts were signed. We were only a few dollars per hour away from Delta and American can’t remember United’s but I’m sure it wasn’t much different. I also feel the same way much less and it’s already a NO from me. There are certain things that have to happen for it to be a yes and that’s just one. No one is talking about our insurance premiums going up a
minimum of 12% next year and the companies reasoning behind it. But we have no hard evidence to support the claims they made. Especially when the union puts out an email detailing exactly how much it’s gone up over the past three years. LTD premium going up 31% for captains, what a joke. FOs think that affects them now but when I’ve explained that’s a Captian thing they are like oh I’m not worried about it then. You should be, so do you not want to sit in the left seat one day?
While I agree the company played games last round and magically they made a huge profit we just don’t know what it is going to be this time around. They could decide to change rapidly after we sign a new contract that is far below where it should be to make the difference up. Makes you wonder if they are slow rolling this and showing “losses” to make it seem like well we really can’t afford to do this. It’s anyone’s guess as to what is going on. All I can say is get your affairs in order because it’s shaping up to be a long fight. Everyone forgets how airline pilots used to be paid by the amount of seats they flew, I.e. why wide body pilots got paid an extreme amount. We currently fly a wide body amount of people so yes we have more responsibility and more at risk and that’s not even mentioning the fact of if something goes wrong and you have to make the decision to evacuate the plane you’re now in charge of properly maintaining a safe execution of more people getting off our crammed planes. I don’t know at the end of the day I know what I want and if it’s not a reality it’s a NO and then if it becomes so bad that there’s no end in sight I’m out.