Originally Posted by
VisionWings
I’ve done the math on the monthly guarantee math. We don’t talk about it because it doesn’t matter. We are paid by the hour. You’re confused if you think we’re talking about MMG. When we do more work more red eye flying more holiday and weekend flying with more passengers for less compensation per hourly rate but work more block hours than the average legacy pilot.
We deserve a lot more. They know it. They pay less because you accept less. Equal hourly rate is still a discount and still a no from me.
We want an equitable pay raise for all the stuff w have to deal with.
if you want to work for less the regionals are always taking cheap labor with limited rights. But I thought this was a major airline paying big boy pilot wages not some crappy regional carrier flying larger metal paying less than republic or endeavor after their incentives.
our hourly rate for our level of risk is crap.
tons of regional pilots make 140 an hour after 1000 hours of time in 121. In the mean time our company is trying offer us less than that to operate ate an airbus with 2-3 times the number of passengers.
let them go out of business if they can’t afford to pay us what we are worth. But pay me for the work I produce. Biffle gets higher compensation for the size of this airline compared to the legacies. We should get higher compensation too. We have more crap we have to deal with including smoothing over their failed operations.
G4 lurker here and I see a similar sentiment from a few people here and it just makes think “thou doth protest too much…”
if you actually felt that way (instead of pure posturing) then you’d be outta here years ago. You’re either completely clueless (doubt it), incredibly unintelligent (which isn’t true), posturing (likely), un-hireable (possible). Because if you were actually committed to only working at F9 if F9 paid you more than the legacies rates then you’re a fool and I don’t believe that to be the case.
you knew in 2022-2023 that F9 was never gonna pay above legacies rates yet you stayed… why? Are you un-hireable? Or did you stay for whatever personal reasons you have and now you are posturing about voting no a TA that paid legacy rates.
again, you and a few of my brothers at G4 also “protest too much” and claim they’d vote down rates that are industry leading because we do more with less as well.
I’ll stop lurking, but from what I’ve seen at G4, this attitude and mentality is not helpful and only builds division within the membership. I’ve seen it firsthand with the FIVE different negotiating committees we’ve had during our four years of negotiations.