Originally Posted by
V1rotategearup
Starting new thread to cover the end of 2025. I’ve seen some postings here and on facebook pilot forums that Envoy seems to be increasing hiring rates, and thus decreasing the wait from initial resume submission to CJO.
Ahead of the last 2 big conferences (LPA/RTAG), somewhat current info would be valuable if people are trying to make decisions for 2026.
Could someone please post:
1. The current upgrade time by base or in general? (Ex: DFW - 1yr, MIA - 2 yr, etc.)
2. Most junior base?
3. Timeline from submission of resume on airlineapps, to interview, to CJO, to class date?
For reference: I submitted my app on 8/20, received an email from the hiring team on 8/21 to make a correction, completed app, currently waiting to move forward.
Thanks, fly safe,
~v1
Half Answer #1:
I started on the line in early July as an FO in DFW and got a line for September (two months on reserve; the typical estimate is 2–4 months). Some classmates held a line after just one month. With hiring steady, 30+ pilots flowing to AA each month, most reserve CAs flying daily, and talk of more forced upgrades, I expect that once you meet the mins and want to upgrade, the company will move you quickly.
Answer #2:
For FOs, DFW seems to be the most senior base, with most new hires going to MIA. Many FOs are transferring or trying to transfer from ORD or MIA to DFW, so I’d expect it to get harder to hold as time goes on.