Old 09-01-2025 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
No, it certainly does not. But has it occurred to you that perhaps we’ve seen this play out before during much worse time in the industry?

Think about it: thousands of furloughed mainline pilots, RJ’s everywhere and regional FO’s could qualify for public assistance, the pay rates decimated along with A plans and all without a realistic way to make up the difference. Now add the 5 year increase in retirement age to all of that.

Compare that with this…We are looking at potentially 2 years (hopefully not) while most airlines are still hiring and mostly for expansion and some retirements. Most off-probation FO’s can max out their 415c limits. Much of the flying that was previously outsourced is rightfully back to mainline and flown by mainline pilots.

Now, in the grand scheme of things, this is all done at ICAO level, not ALPA, not FAA, not even Congress. If ICAO adopts it, none of our bellyaching will matter. The history will repeat itself.

My point to you is that if this should happen, all of us are far better off today than we were in 2006-2007 in many ways, and should this happen, the impact on your career will be way milder in many ways than it was on us back when 65 came to be. I’m not trying to tell you to like it, but it’s not worth the angst or creating animosity if you run across someone who may be in favor of changing the age. That’s why I’m saying - own your side of the argument whichever one it may be and stop pretending.

Lastly, on a personal note, watching all these same tired arguments is like watching an old re-run. The difference is some folks seem to think the ending will be different this time.
i was in the industry, stagnated with thousands of others during those years, barely able to pay rent…


nobody owes me anything because of it.