Originally Posted by
greatmovieistar
I am not CEO of a major airline going on National TV wishing thousands of pilots go out in the streets without jobs.
Neither is Kirby, despite what you repeatedly say.
Originally Posted by
greatmovieistar
Plus where did I wish for your demise? Karma is a B and I won't be the one administering it.
Pretty sure you’d be happy for SK to fall in the dumper, aka UAL. Not a giant leap equating the crap you cry about in reference to SK and the rhetoric you use as well. But he’s the only scumbag in the room. You won’t be administering the karma to Kirby? Thanks for clearing that up🤣 See the bold below in a very well-worded reply that, somehow, you’ll turn on its end. Those points are salient and what happens across the board. The fact that SK says some things openly that you think are classless doesn’t change the fact that all of the CEOs would be equally happy with the same market climate. The CEOs would crush their own pilot group if it meant better profits, corporate standing, and share prices. Somehow you feel like business is some benevolent structure. “My competition isn’t doing well, that sucks for the pilot group.” Thats a sentiment I hope all of us simple-brained stick monkeys share. That’s not the sentiment I want my big-brained CEO to have. Somehow it appears you struggle to see the difference.
Originally Posted by
Longhornmaniac8
Let me start out by saying I have lots of friends at NK and feel for every single one of them. They have a lot of good people at their company. There but for the grace of God go I.
That being said, I think you're making personal what simply isn't. I have not once heard SK ever celebrating individual people losing their jobs, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. The reality is in this business there are winners and losers. Not as people, but as companies. And SK has been saying for years now what most of us have known; the ULCC model, and especially NK, are not likely to succeed long term. As things have accelerated in that regard, the rhetoric surrounding it has shifted from a "when, not if," to a "how soon." You're interpreting that as actively rooting for their employees' losses of livelihood which is a huge leap in logic. Everything I've seen him say was factual and narrowly-focused on the competition between the businesses as singular entities.
His responsibility is to United. In this business, your gains often come at the expense of others. We knew that when we signed up, and none of us will know until the end of our careers if we made the right decision. For better or for worse, our current system doesn't afford leaders of businesses the opportunity to be sensitive to the individual employees at companies we're competing against. He would be derelict in his fiduciary duty to United if he said "let's leave our competitor alive to keep their employees working." I wouldn't expect any competitor not to try to kick United when it's down.
It's just business.
Originally Posted by
jdavk
Bingo - happens all the time. Ask one of the old CAL guys about TORQUE.
Yup