Originally Posted by
Gulfasaurus
Just like they had to put out a Safety Memo about how not to fly through thunderstorms. I read all your examples including this one, and can come up with an equal number of "yikes" moments with senior widebody crews at the helm, like the one that sparked this thread. All the examples you brought up are bad and should be addressed, but attributing it simply to age or seniority is overly simplistic.
C'mon HK you're better than this. That's why I'm being intentionally stubborn, and sometimes sarcastic. It gets exhausting getting talked down to all the time, and having to listen to how junior pilots in both seats don't have the right skills or experience to be there. You and others have said multiple times that there was significant scrutiny both in the training department and in flight standards over the Captains that upgraded with less than 3 years on property when that was going on. I can attest to it being true having gone through the program myself. If significant deficiencies were noted they should have been dealt with in that setting. I think it's dishonest to try and paint one category of pilots as lesser just based on their seniority number, when the truth is everyone can have a bad day at work and end up on a bulletin, or worse the news. We study those that ended up in that unfortunate situation so hopefully we never have to ourselves.
They did that too. They put out a lot of articles. For the 73 group an LCA put out a 3 part series on how to calculate bingo fuels. The LCP's just don't make these topics up, they use the excellent feedback system we have with DALPA CASC, Delta Flight Safety, FOQA guys, Training and Standards. When we see trends, we publish. There's a radar fundamentals paper coming from Flight Standards soon. It was already in the works before the 330 Leroy Jenkins maneuver.
we see a lot of stuff happening out there that, again, is not published in the SES. Maybe you should volunteer for one of the safety groups or to be a FOQA dude. I think you'd have your eyes opened. Again, we all make mistakes, and we all should learn from them and others.