Originally Posted by sailingfun

I never saw 17 year upgrades. The old gouge was always 12 years to CA and 20 to widebody CA. If you waited until 17 years it likely was to get the base and seniority level you desired. There were some slow periods such as when the 96 contract pulled 350 CA positions from pilots about to upgrade and sent them to junior pilots and what happened after 911.