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Old 09-20-2025 | 07:56 PM
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TimetoClimb
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto
As I understand 20-a-4, after 9 hours from when a Short call period began, but still within 14 hours, the MINIMUM report time is 12 hours.
Reason is you need the rest. Seems pretty basic.

In my case I was notified of an assignment still during the initial 9 hours. The time from notification until report time was 14 hours and 9 minutes.

20-a-4 unless I am not seeing something, has a vacuum of language defining if a case like mine would be considered “used” or “unused”.

Situations like mine happen pretty regularly and my Pay register has been recording them as Unused. Perhaps I am lucky. I think in the spirit of the rule, it should be unused as, in the first 9 hours are on DUTY, after 9 hours YOU ARE NOT ON DUTY, and as such you were “unused” during your duty period.
you are getting lucky indeed. The definition of unused isnt in 20-4-a, it’s in 3-C-1-b
“A reserves MPG shall increase by 1 hour for each unused short call….. a used short call is one in which a pilot is assigned to a trip scheduled to report within eighteen (18) hours of the time the trip assignment is made (12 if vec)”

so yes, it’s clearly stated there they can give you a rest reset and as long as the report is within 18 hours of the assignment time, no dice on the pay. It makes zero difference if you were on the 2.5 hour callout of the first 9 hours or the 12 hour callout of the next 5. Now after 14 hours from the SC start, you’re good to go and get the pay assuming no pairing, because the SC period itself is 14 hours long (look at your master schedule and you’ll see); and once it’s over with no assignment, it’s “unused”

Stated another way, any pairing that reports within 32:00 hours of the SC start time has the potential to rob you of the pay increase. Depending on if they make it down the “ladder” to you and when the pairing becomes open.

I just had an assignment with the rest reset and was notified during my SC with 16 hours to report…no mpg increase

this was a huge give to the company. There is rarely hanging around on LSR for the TRV pilot (in my category at least). You are either on a SC or assigned a trip or returning from a trip awaiting the next SC and get no pay incentive for working more until you break guarantee. All SCs should pay much like VEC gets a pay increase for their availability

Last edited by TimetoClimb; 09-20-2025 at 08:14 PM.
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