Old 10-04-2025 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
it gets a bad rap because it NEVER works! Once someone gets a taste of getting something someone else has earned without doing anything for it themselves, they want more and more.

give me one example of socialism working in a society and the people at the bottom actually have a quality standard of living .

and before you say “Denmark, Finland Norway ect”””


Despite common misconceptions, the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden) are not socialist economies. Instead, they operate under a capitalist, free-market framework that funds extensive social welfare programs through high taxes. This system is more accurately described as social democracy, with the following key characteristics:
  • Welfare capitalism: The state intervenes to provide social security and equal opportunity but does not control the means of production.
  • High taxes: These generous welfare systems are financed through high taxes on all citizens, not just the wealthy.
  • Strong unions: Labor unions play a significant role in policymaking and collective bargaining.
  • Flexible labor market: Policies are designed to provide generous social benefits and job training to offset flexible hiring and firing practices.


and their heavy social programs only work in these countries due to there extremely homogeneous population with a value system that does not reward laziness.
However I’m not calling for straight socialism and the whole “homogeneous society” argument is kinda weak. It’s an attempt to rationalize political paralysis (ahem Congress) and excuse growing inequality. The social democracies you pointed out aren’t anti-capitalist, they’ve simply figured out how to balance markets with fairness and stability. There’s no reason we couldn’t adopt some of those same principles here without abandoning our own roots or economic success.