Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

What non-sense is that? That wind and solar are not viable or reliable sources of energy? They're most certainly not. What's France doing now BTW? Germany? Building traditional plants - to include nuclear.

It's all out there OOfff and belittling us and inferring we are less than intelligent on the matter and you are the "expert" is the mentality that puts in the place where we can't have nice things. It's not binary OOfff. We've tried the grand experiment and it doesn't work. You've met the enemy and he is you (POGO).

Nothing wrong with using wind and/or solar to supplement traditional power, but it's been proven that relying solely on it for the majority of supply to your grid is a fools errand. Pound for pound, liter to liter organic fuels are absolutely the most efficient and least costly. Nuclear has come a long way as well. The new reactors Westinghouse has designed are quite impressive. You should go read up on them.