Originally Posted by JustInFacts

So, the majority of the MEC votes to go a certain direction and they are dividing the union? In March 2024, 8 of the 15 reps at the time voted to ask the NMB for release. Were you on here talking about how they divided our union, I don't think so. So, just because you disagree with the majority, the majority are bad.

You keep saying that we had leverage going into peak while under 4a2bc. You said flights were getting canceled. So, why would the exit from 4a2bc change that. In November, the minimum line BLG was 76 hours, now it is 85 hours. There was plenty of room to add hours to the BLG and it wouldn't have counted toward an exit from 4a2bc. The same would go for December.

Go to the Delta thread and look at how they are having to fight to get the pay they think they are owed. Look at how their positive space commuting grievance turned out. So, tell us again how we were going to bring the company to their knees.

How many guys do you fly with that were hired after 2015 that are hard set about keeping the pension? I don't fly with many. I like the pension, but if the majority want to give it up for a 18% or more DC plan with cash over cap or some other vehicle, then so be it. I'm sure if that happened and we got Delta rates plus you would have some conspiracy theory about how the company was really cheating us.

JG and the TC8 have cost us 14 of the last 19 months of being on ice. In direct negotiations with the company, all that JG accomplished was getting some actuaries together to talk about costing formula's. So, we are 27 months from the failed TA and JG can't even agree on how to cost his proposals?

What about that direct line to the NMB that JG had that would allow us to restart negotiations quickly, as soon as he presented a new plan. Was that a lie, or did he not come up with a new plan. Trying to push us to an impasse isn't a plan. It's more like the toddler throwing a tantrum in the grocery store because they want a cookie. The toddler 5 are going to keep us in time out.