Last snapshot, today for 787 west coast FO, most junior is award 45% RS company wide (8k out of 18k). If that holds up he would need 40k UAL pilots, 10k retirements, or something in between. Plan for 2030 is about 30k, probably about 5k retirements till then. Based on that it will be just over 5 years or so to hold WB FO in LAX/SFO. Will that hold? I have no clue. Without growth it could take longer. We could go back to the crazy 23's were all the relatively senior people for unknown reasons forgot to bid and we ended up with NHNBCA and NHWBFO. Historically, 10 years for NBCA/WBFO isn't that far off.