Originally Posted by e6bpilot

Agree that displacements will take a while to unwind. However, it is so much more complex than saying DEN is -200 so 200 vacancies have to be created in Denver. That is simply not true. Over 40 percent of that base commutes and at least half of them have multiple options to be based in. Every pilot that bids out of Denver creates a vacancy. Some of the displaced have given up, moved, gotten hired other places, etc. Some displaced pilots are taking up a spot in DEN. I am not saying this to be heartless, but Denver headcount probably isn't going to grow in any appreciable amount any time soon just because of what REF said. It is a hub and spoke connector station. The writing is on the wall.

Full disclosure, I used to be a DEN based commuter and decided to bid out on my own terms rather than get forced into an untenable seniority situation. I am not the only one. After a while, the hotel situation and very disrupted commuting situation gets old. When I had good seniority there, it didn't matter as much. Now it does. I just wish I would have left earlier rather than holding on.



You are going to find that in between contract cycles especially, there are a lot of us that show up to work and go home and cash the checks and simply don't care about other people's problems. It's unfortunate. The ATL messaging was driven by the company and more specifically by MS who has a soft spot for ATL. DEN got the shaft and got no love.

In the end, hiring is going to fix all of this. If we were hiring right now, nobody would care because when you throw bodies at the manning puzzle, there's nothing to complain about. The company chose to do this during a prolonged zero hiring period and now they get to own the unintended consequences. I predict in a year, if we hire an appreciable amount, this won't be an issue at all.