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Old 06-04-2008 | 05:23 PM
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dojetdriver
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Ok, let me break it down for you. Sorry, some of this is going to be long winded and tedious, but necessary to make my point.

Scope language is negotiated by unionized pilots and written into legally binding documents called CBA's. It's primary purpose is to preserve the jobs of pilots falling under said CBA, and usually to pilots of other CBA's in the event of merger, acquisition/buyout, or successorship. CBA's are legally binding documents that can't simply be changed at managements whim. That it helps guys who have yet to be employed there is incidental. Scope also exists at the regional level. Remember this, it will come back later. I have yet to see where a document authored by management contains scope, or anything that protects the jobs of pilots. If you know of one, please let me know.

1) Does that "handbook" at SKY contain scope language?
2) Is that "handbook" a legally binding document?

I'm going to guess no. If so, please enlighten me. But I don't think so. I don't remember the SKW pilot group putting up too much of a fight as it related to an 18 month pay freeze (how long did that last anyway?) and flying 70/90 seat equipment for 50 seat pay rates. As well as management finding new ways to interpret the handbook as they see fit. Usually not in the pilot group's favor.

If you have been keeping up, the proposed buyout by SKW of a unionized carrier has been stopped (for now) by scope language. The loss of jobs (if any) and displacements (if any) at XJT has been stopped for now, and will more than likely be minimized, again, if there are any due to scope language that was negotiated by a unionized pilot group. If it would have gone through, you do know that about 700 XJT pilots would be on the street, right? I asked you that before in another post and you didn't answer. If you (or anybody else) thinks that XJT would have been operated status quo after the buyout, sorry, you are mistaken. If you need evidence of what I mean, take a look the next time you see a CRJ with an ASA end number on it but has the SkyWest logo on the nose, using the SkyWest callsign, being flown by SkyWest pilots.

Now, to wrap this long winded post up. I can't help but find ironic humor in an RJ FO telling a mainline CA that he better do everything he can to protect the RJ FO's job. Bear in mind, that statement is coming from a pilot at a non union carrier that has voted down union representation multiple times. Also, I'll bet that mainline CA has paid more in ALPA dues than you have made as an as RJ FO up to this point. Who knows? Maybe he was all for scope relaxation, maybe he wasn't. But like I said, YOU telling him that is just too funny.

Go head, write some emotionally laden post that is devoid of any FACTS what so ever. Tell me again what a joke I am. Tell me what a stupid post this is. Cry foul because I hurt your feelings.

Last edited by de727ups; 06-05-2008 at 10:28 AM. Reason: edited out deleted quote
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