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Old 11-30-2025 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Flika
Depends on whether you want to include the ultra wealthy who skew the numbers. The average net worth in the United States is around 1M, but the median is under 200,000, which is a far better indicator of where most people actually fall.
The average middle class working person hitting 1M worth is not unique, It’s 2025, soon to be 26’, “starter homes” are nearing half mil these days


Originally Posted by Flika
The difference is the those ****ty 172 CFIs earned a type rating for their transport category aircraft, completed line training, and are required to go through recurrent sim every six to twelve months. They have constant oversight from check airmen, line checks, and data monitoring. The system builds multiple layers of supervision and standardization around them.
Uhh a part 135 PC12 driver is going to sim training and checkride every 6mo as well, they also have oversight from Checkairmen, CP, DO, etc

Many don’t have a union, they pop a ride and it might be walking papers.

You know thats standard for pretty much all working pilots right?


Originally Posted by Flika
Being an airline pilot is a full time job, especially for commuters and junior pilots. Many are also involved in union work, training department, and/or line training. None of that suggests a lack of interest in professional growth. A lot of pilots simply have no desire to go back to single engine pistons. They get their flying fix from the job itself.
Union work has near zero stick and rudder, weather reading, etc it’s more administrative than anything else.

Watching others fly the box or plane is a little better, but not a whole lot, as can be witnessed when you get one of the senior guys who lives in the training center and he has to do his stint on the line, ohhh boy lol

Not sure how much of a flying fix sitting in straight and level with the AP engaged drinking nasty coffee and shooting the chit really is.


Thats a yuuge red flag “go back to single engine pistons”, if you think flying a single engine piston is “going back” that’s not good.


“professional growth” is something Becky in HR would say, I have no idea what that means, is it like “synergy” or “circling back around”?


There is much many work to live jet pilots could learn from spending time in a super D, J3, gliders, helicopters, etc, thinking you’re past that points to just how LOOONG a ways you have to go.



Good case and point, when we get a bad weather high cross wind day, the guys who fly that widebody like a extension of themselves and don’t seem remotely flustered, seem to actually enjoy the challenge, often it’s the dudes who enjoy GA on their days off


Compare to the guys who live in the training center, or the line pilots who “work to live, don’t live to work” and “don’t want to fly a plane on my days off” their voice often goes up a octave and you can see they are somewhat flustered, not saying it all of them but it’s enough to notice.

Just a different view I guess
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