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Old 06-05-2008 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
TD, you know me and you know i wouldnt call you out unless you deserved it but this time i am going to. You seem to post a lot of negative comments towards XJT, why? it wasnt long ago you were asking me for a rec to get on at XJT, right? XJT is full of alot of really good people that you and I personally know, why talk down to the company that employs many of our friends? Most people starting out in this industry just apply everywhere and take one of the first jobs they are offered, anyone of us could be at a different company based on timing. So it really is pointless to bash one another's companies or even talk down to a fellow aviator regardless of the company we work for. I dont even work for XJT anymore but i found those comments pretty tacky. Had things been slightly different and you gotten your way you would be at XJT right now and would you want someone casting out comments like that at your company? I know alot of others on this board have said some stupid stuff also but I know you personally thus my comments to you. Hopefully no hard feelings are portrayed by this but just remember it could always be you next with this industry. Again just some old fashion, Waco friendly advice

For everyone else bashing each others companies whats the point? Thats part of the reason why our industry is the way it is because there is no unity.
No hard feelings taken and had I interviewed and XJT and been offered the job I probably would have taken it. You guys assume I'm bashing. I'm not bashing. I'm talking real life facts that are bleeding all over the financial papers, company communications, and even here(as hard as that seems). This isn't the private XJT pilots forum so when people start talking about the company I expect at least a bit of accuracy. Making statements so bold as to say how CAL can't get rid of XJT, or any other company for that matter, is about as dumb as it can get. People need to wake up and stop drinking whatever flavor of kool-aid they're on. I'm not bashing anyone. I've never bashed the group nor the contract. I've talked about the management and their decisions because those decisions have a greater affect than just those of the pilot group. The pilot group isn't the only one with the rights to talk about the company. The ego around here that they are is arrogance at it's best.

Just because someone works somewhere doesn't give you "admin" privilages about what can and can't be spoken about it. You see it as personal bashing when no statements have been made in direction of the pilot group. This is about the company. Could be wal-mart or RAH we're talking about but it isn't this is XJT. XJT is the news of the hour. There are BIG MOVES being made at a company that affects all of us and are noteworthy to discuss. Don't think you guys are the only ones allowed to talk about it. If you can't keep it civil then keep it off here. Tpersuit is a prime example and the whining that follows is a nice backup to that. It's time to face some facts here.

*XJT is a regional airline.
*We are regional pilots.
*XJT has been persued by another regional which is something of very large magnitude which can have a great impact on the rest of us in one note or another.

If you want to talk about XJT and keep it only limited to XJT posts then put it on the XJT forum. For some reason it's ok to talk about Mesa, Freedom, SKYW, ASA, Indy air, Skybus, Frontier, SWA, CAL, DAL/NWA, etc. but you guys think talking about XJT is bashing. It's not. Where's the inaccuracy? You have to admit there's a large level of koolaid drinking around here. Only here could you post a financial statement showing cash flow, wall street analysis, letters from CAL and SKYW, and people still turn to you and say "Show me proof". I don't bash pilot groups. Once I posted an article from the Journal talking about the company and it's financial position with no comment attached and was called out as "bashing". Just because some doen't agree doesn't mean they get to play the character assassination card.

I thought we were talking about the company, it's stability, it's future outlook, and implications of actions. I didn't know this was an agree or you're bashing thread.