Originally Posted by
John Carr
Are you not capable of understanding what I’m getting at? Or just being contrite for the sake of arguing with someone on the internet?
Why are you deflecting, creating strawman, putting words in my mouth, and making up stuff I never said nor insinuated?
What do you think the U.S.’s goal of funding Ukraine is? What do you think the is the aim/endgame is of the U.S.as it relates to Ukraine?
Can you answer those questions?
OK, my apologies for insinuating that calling Ukraine a pawn of the west means that you believe Putin is justified to invade Ukraine. To be fair for that specific statement was a question and it was never a direct declaration.
I believe the US is involved in Ukraine in order to curtail Russian aggression towards the Baltic states in an attempt to fulfill its self stated goals of reconstituting the Soviet empire.
Directly linked to the above point, I believe that the US is also involved in order to make sure it’s largest trading partner is not disrupted over the next hundred years as Russia takes control of Europe’s bread basket, the Baltic deep water ports, and continue to prosecute asymmetric, non-kinetic warfare against states that do not align with the western ideals.
The two points above are also directly linked to the US‘s own self interest of monetary gain. Not just the altruistic vision of a free and Democratic West that isn’t under the boot heel of a despot.
I believe that most people understand that the objectively proven most peaceful time in human history should continue, and Russia has proven that they are not interested in continuing this peace via invading its neighbors and executing territorial acquisition of sovereign nations.
So, how exactly is Ukraine ,who is fighting for its life, currently a pawn of the west?
And why did Russia invade Ukraine to begin with?
If you have 1 ounce of integrity, you will answer those two questions since I’ve answered yours. You will not insult, evade, or otherwise act in an inappropriate manner. You will also bear in mind that everyone understands there are billion nuances associated with this, and this is not an all encompassing list,. That is subjectively a warranted and fair declaration