Originally Posted by
MaxQ
In response to your reference to "pushing Russia out of Ukraine":
Obviously I am not privy to the strategic war planning of Ukrainian leadership.
But:
Why would you assume that the only strategy for Ukrainian success is "pushing Russia out.."?
That's not what I think. But if you've read all the previous threads, or had conversations with people, that scream "we have to support Ukraine!!!!!!", that seems to be consensus of how they see the ONLY end to it.
Anything contrary to that, and you get labeled a Russian sympathizer/Putin puppet/apologist
Originally Posted by
MaxQ
My personal opinion is that the strategy is that eventually the Russian's will just leave.
We could hope so. And what I've repeated before, how long can Russia last? Because, Russia just continues on......
Originally Posted by
MaxQ
It would require many moving parts to fall into place, but it has been a successful strategy for many weaker forces when faced by a stronger colonial power.
And to date, people thought sending billions in aid and sanctions would do just that, and here we are, 3.75 years later, and Russia continues on...
Originally Posted by
MaxQ
They eventually pack up and go home. Because they can.
Exaclty, a la the Russians in Afghanistan.
Originally Posted by
MaxQ
There are a lot of ideas for a successful outcome for Ukraine that do not involve a direct defeat of Russia in the conventional sense.
Most of the strategies DO require aid for Ukraine from other wealthier countries.
Ukrainian defeat is not inevitable, nor even likely.
As stated, it's a war of attrition. Russia has more manpower to lose, how long and how many more fighting age males can Ukraine produce? Reference Excargodog's population pyramid graphics. And sorry, I'm NOT buying anyone's casualty estimates.