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Old 01-04-2026 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RStrawberry
i mean how can we not? Our career mobility, earnings, and QOL will be permanently impeded and diminished due to the hiring patterns of yesterday. I’d like to know just how much less one hired today can anticipate earning compared to a similar aged new hire of 2019 or 2022. Probably easily measured in millions. Kind of hard not to feel sour about that. What a huge missed opportunity..
You should not want to know that. It is utterly irrelevant, and will only serve to keep you bitter. And, there isn't a darn thing you can do about it now.

Originally Posted by RStrawberry
Sure, that doesn’t make it suck any less or diminish the difficulties today’s regional/mil/LCC guys looking to move up are going to face. Stagnant seniority lists, 15+ year upgrades, etc… all because of timing.

count yourself lucky and try not to be a jerk to those who are probably looking at 30-40% less career earnings than their luckier peers.


I’m not even hoping for a top 1% career, just an average or good career and not feeling like a second class worker to my peers who had life go more favorably for them to end up at regionals before Covid. Thats literally it.
You were citing a 20 year upgrade before, now it's 15+. It honestly makes me wonder if you are trolling. I'm telling you, I track this stuff closely for the benefit of the DL forum, and (barring an unforeseeable black swan), it's not likely going to be even 10 years - which would still be a good result by historical standards. The seniority list at DL is not stagnant, at all. We have 500 retirements a year for 8 years, then 400 thereafter. You will only be a second class worker if you make yourself one.

From what I gather, you made the choice to stay at a ULCC. You now deeply regret that choice. You will get zero sympathy here for that choice, especially when you come across as bitter and somewhat entitled.

But, and I'm honestly trying to be constructive here, you are clearly swimming in the poison of bitterness about it. And it probably showed at the UA and DL interviews. There are lots of pilots who get picked up on the second interview. I strongly suggest you do some hard introspection, root out the negativity, and show some humility. And should you be successful on interview 2.0, focus on the fact that you still got a golden ticket, and will retire a multimillionaire having had a great career. Be glad you got there at all.

The choice is yours.

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