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Old 01-14-2026 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by captnate702
are you talking about just the pilots are separate or the entire operation? Management told Wall Street that they will see 100m in “synergies” once they have a single operating certificate. Maybe others can help but i am pretty certain you can have a single certificate before a JCBA and SLI?

I think getting a 50% savings on 2/3 of your pilots is gonna outweigh whatever “synergies” management misses out on by having separate operations. Company is telling Wall Street there are synergies just on the revenue management and loyalty side.

Again, I’m not saying management wouldn’t like to get the JCBA done for all the unions, but we have a whole lot more to lose if we don’t get a deal until JCBA in 2030 than management does. Thats why I’m skeptical management will give us something that could get ratified.

my prediction: management gives us something they know won’t get ratified (think NK retirement, slight improvement to LTD and then SY rates with no work rule improvements). It goes for vote. Gets voted down. Management washes their hands, say they did their best, and drag us out for years in JCBA.

I hope I am wrong, but I remain skeptical.
Basically I was trying to say for the joint contract they will be more motivated because to capture all the joint savings we have to be working all as one. That does not help our cause now. It could however cause them issues on the retaining and if need recruiting side if they give us nothing now tell then. In the past even spirit gave the pilots something to be onboard to wait out the merger process. We shall see if G4 will follow.
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