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Old 01-16-2026 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hightime80
I think one of the issues with SY and G4 will be managements greed. Even though we have little overlap now what we’re doing is so similar any changes post SOC could be seen and contested as disparate growth or alter ego flying. Just a myriad of scope, RLA, and MB issues. They are gonna want to announce new routes quickly after the SOC that’ll be challenging, and if any of that goes to the cheaper labor group I think management is going to run into a lot of issues. That’s also why we need ALPA here, the Toonster truck driver lawyers are completely incompetent when it comes to the RLA, MB, or pretty much any other sort of legal expertise pertaining to the airline world.

with AS and HA at least there is more distinction in the flying with the exception of the Hawaii routes but changes in that would be pretty visible.
It's possible.

AS definitely shuffled some mainland-HI flying around, and some AS pilots were really unhappy when their long OGG layovers turned into short GEG layovers.

Long-term, all the HI flying will be on HA branded airplanes, but for now they don't really care about the paint job. The company can do anything they want with paint and branding... some HA aircraft now have an AS paint job.

The TPA protections we got were on total block hours IIRC... the company can and did shuffle block hours amongst the bases, as long as it stayed with the original pilot group. They're also opening and shrinking bases pre-JCBA/SLI.
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